Cubs Park

Chicago Cubs (Spring Training)

9/10

A healthy crowd takes in the Cubs/Angels

This place is jaw dropping for many reasons, including the teeming mass of humanity on the outfield berms. Not a patch of grass to be had.

I hate sitting this close, or paying this much, but it was this or not going and it would've been a long flight home without at least one new park.

 This place was the only new park I got in for my 2014 Cactus League trip. The Cubs moved to Cubs Park(now "Sloan Park") for 2014 after deciding that their old digs at HoHoKam Park weren't good enough for their growing fan base in the Cactus and also seeing Salt River Fields elevating Spring Training facilities to a whole new level of amenities....and prices. But at any rate, they didn't move far, less than 4 miles as the crow drives, staying within Mesa, building a 15,000 seat stadium, the largest for Spring Training anywhere. 

Firstly, this place is expensive. Ticket prices are high, food prices are high, parking's around average, but the ingress is a disaster(more on this later). Still, I don't really rate parks based on how affordable or expensive they are, because everyone has a different view of how much things are worth anyway. At any rate, I digress....

Overall, Cubs Park is pretty impressive. It's enormous, easily comparable to a newer AAA stadium, but with major league concessions, which we hardly got into in one day, but not limited to the Turkey Burger or Pulled Pork Hot Dog as options. I watched the first game here on WGN and they had a 5 minute feature during the game on just the food, with the whole telecast coming across like a big commercial to get out to Arizona. The stadium is really well laid out architecture wise, as almost the entire seating bowl, from foul pole to foul pole is under a giant sun shade, which even as the afternoon drags on, doesn't have many gaps. Atmosphere here was largely reflective of a new park, with lots of curious onlookers, snowbirds wanting to see "the new park" and of course, legions of Cubs fans.

The only knock on this place was the fact it was just so crowded, which usually is only so much of a problem, but I anticipated crowds. I also anticipated that at a new park in its first season, things might not run so smooth. So we left the west valley super early, then got off the 202 at 1215 rolled into Mesa and hit a BRICK WALL. It took about an hour to get from the exit, into a parking spot, then from there, back to the ballpark and into our seats, meaning we were in the neighbourhood almost an hour prior to game time and still late.

If the Cubs want to have a "Premium Tier" park to match Salt River, they need to make the experience match up too. I didn't go back in 2014 or 2015, because tickets were simply not possible to get, unless at a substantial markup. Given the choice between 2 and a half hours in the car from the West Valley to Mesa and 20 minutes round trip to Goodyear for the cheapest tickets anywhere, it was not a hard call. For now, my advice is to all but the most loyal Cub fans, go once, enjoy, then stay away and wait a second, until the prices and crowds die down. One of my cardinal rules(no pun intended) of Cactus League games is to avoid the Cubs, as the crowds follow.

But, don't let that take away from this place, which is still pretty impressive. Just don't plan on going too regularly, for your own sake.

Update 2021: The Cubs continue to draw well here. I haven't been to the Cactus league since a short pit stop in 2017, but did not even attempt to come back here, as ticket prices and traffic keep this one down my list. It's been 7 years now, so it should start to work its way up.

Linescore:

2014-03-25

                                123   456   789  R H E

Los Angeles(AL)     100  100  006   8 13 0

Chicago(NL)           020   010  100  4   9 1

Temp: N/A   Time: N/A    Att: 15,276

Phoenix Municipal Stadium

Arizona State Sun Devils (Pac-12)

8/10

 

The main entrance is on the 3rd base side, you need to go up a spiral walkway, across the street, then back down to get there from the parking lot.

2013 prior to my suspected "Last game at the Muni", I turned out to get one more.

A sparse crowd watches Arizona Fall League action in 2011.

I didn't make it to a game at Phoenix Municipal Stadium, a.k.a. "The Muni" until 2011, my 2nd spring in Arizona. This stadium is a little different than the others in the Cactus League at the time, as it's history lends itself more to Phoenix baseball than Spring Training. This stadium hosted AAA baseball in Phoenix for 25 years as the Phoenix Giants, then Firebirds, called the Muni home. The Firebirds moved up Loop 101 to Scottsdale when Scottsdale Stadium opened in 1992. The San Francisco Giants held Spring Training here for one year in the 1960's, before the Oakland A's moved in in 1984. The A's had 20 years here before they too moved across town, to HoHoKam Stadium in Mesa, leaving the Muni open. Taking a page from their cross-state rivals in Tucson, the Arizona State Sun Devils decided to move their baseball team from an on campus stadium to the Muni.

At any rate, this is a very straightforward stadium. Stairs lead up to the main concourse, with box seats in front and loge behind. The backdrop is very much stereotypical Arizona, with red rocks and in the case of a 2011 fall league game, a large dust storm. The concessions here were not my favourite, right up until I wandered out to the barbeque stand in the left field corner. I don't remember exactly what I ended up with, but I do remember the burgers and chicken sandwiches coming out of there looking pretty good. The atmosphere here was slightly above average, as the lack of video board and really anything else going on outside of the game made it very enjoyable. The main reason the A's moved (back) to Mesa wasn't the stadium, but more the back fields, or namely the fact that they were about a mile from the main stadium via bus, across the street from the Phoenix Zoo. Now that the team has moved, everything is contained in one complex.

Overall, this was a somewhat unique Spring Training venue, with slightly above average concessions and atmosphere, which should serve the ASU Baseball program well for years to come.

Update 2019: The Sun Devils are enjoying things at the Muni, averaging 2,913 for 2019, which was 21st in the NCAA. I haven't been here in awhile, so I'm not aware of any serious upgrades. This park is highly unlikely to host professional baseball again. I'd go if I had the opportunity, but many other Phoenix area parks would be higher on my list.

Linescores

2011-03-25

                               123  456  789  R H E

Los Angeles(AL)       104  011  030  10 16 0

Oakland                   000  010  020  3 6  2

Time: 2:39  Temp: 70F  Att: 8,540

2011-10-04

                123  456  789   R H E

Mesa         005 120  000   8 7 1

Phoenix     210  602  01x  12 13 0

Time: 2:54  Temp: 91F  Att: 235

2013-03-27

                        123  456  789   R H E

Colorado           210  020  000   5  9  0

Oakland            010  320  00x  6 12 0

Time: 2:33  Temp: 87F  Att:4,795

2014-03-26

                                   123  456  789  RHE

Los Angeles(AL)           001  000  311  661

Oakland                       001  000  010  261

Time: 2:57  Temp: 75F  Att: 5,033

HoHoKam Stadium

Oakland Athletics(Spring Training)

8/10

The exterior of the ballpark was somewhat bland and didn't do it justice. See the new one further down.

The stadium teems with rooters for a Satuday afternoon clash with San Diego.

Another shot of a nice crowd.

Bonus Picture: This shot from the left field pole shows the layout of the grandstand, with only a few spectators dotting the seats.

The newly repainted exterior really "pops" (I hate that phrase, but it's true). No wondering who plays here.

A giant new LED scoreboard welcomed me in 2014

Pre-game preparations for Cubs/Oakland

HoHoKam Stadium was the Chicago Cubs Spring Home from 1997-2013. I've been to two games here, a Fall League game in 2011 and a Cactus League game the next spring. HoHoKam was the last Cactus League park I went to and I was glad to have all of them in the bag.

My first experience with this park was in the fall league, seeing a decent game with only around 50 people in the stands. The fans ended up bunching up in the middle innings as it began to rain, with the only cover in the back few rows.

Still, the Fall league doesn't give you a really good picture of a park, so I decided that I had to get this one in for 2012. We headed over for a Saturday afternoon game versus the Padres and found out that in March, the area gets unbelievably crowded on game days. Traffic is bad, parking is worse and you must brave the crowds for everything from food to the toilet. This place averaged over 10,000 people....in 1999(!) and it hasn't let up since. I'd recommend avoiding the Cubs when they're on the road and only going to their home games when you feel you must(Cubs fans are exempt from this). The Cubs know they have a good thing going in Mesa, so prices for everything from tickets to concessions can be relatively high. The exterior is a bland grey, although Cubs legends names and numbers are in the sidewalk outside, which I thought was a nice touch.

On the plus side, this is a nice place to watch a game. There is an upper concourse effectively dividing the park in half, the lower seats are close to the action, but the loge seats have most of the shade. The atmosphere is pretty good, the Cubs have a pretty good contingent come to Arizona from the Chicago winter, following them from park to park around the Valley.

But, the park was at its limit and the Cubs decided they'd rather build their own and for 2014, they will be training at Cubs Park, a brand new 15,000(!) seat facility about two miles west, but still in Mesa. The Cubs were giving up a few thousand paying customers for every home game and the neighbourhood wasn't handling the game day crowds too easily. But unlike most ballparks that get passed by, HoHoKam is still relevant. The Oakland A's, training in Phoenix at Municipal Stadium, see HoHoKam as a massive improvement over their current digs, particularly on the training side of things, so after a year to get ready, Cactus League baseball will return in 2015. HoHoKam is now one of the older parks in the area, but with the A's wisely choosing to move in, it will be in the Cactus League loop for years to come.

Update 2016: I managed to get back here to see the A's version of this place in 2015, it's first season since Oakland's return and was pretty happy with the work that'd been done. The two big differences I caught were the Facade and the Scorboard. The board is a big new LED job which in my opinion, does add to the experience slightly, while the park is painted(on the outside) in A's colours. On the inside, things are only so different, with concessions being adequate and the atmosphere being around normal for Spring Training. Still, the improvements here are worthy of a point for facility, so this place goes up to 8/10. If I was in the East Valley(as opposed to out west) I'd likely make this a regular.

Linescores

2011-10-16
                                  123    456   789    RHE
Surprise Saguaros         000   052   001   891
Mesa Solar Sox             201  210   001   791
Temp: 83F  Time: 2:45  Att: 145

2012-03-24
                                123    456   789    RHE          
San Diego                  000  300   002    591
Chicago Cubs             010  000   000    133
Temp: 86F  Time: 2:40   Att: 12,872

2015-03-24
                         123    456   789    R  H  E
Chicago Cubs      101    000   000   2  6  2
Oakland               226    120  10x    14 18 1
Temp: N/A  Time: 3:27   Att: 9,032

Peoria Sports Complex

San Deigo Padres, Seattle Mariners, Spring Training

8/10

A crowd takes in the Padres and Mariners in 2010.

The grounds crew prepares for AFL action in October 2011.

The Padres and Mariners head towards a nice sunset in 2013.

Peoria was the 2nd Cactus League park I went to in 2010, watching a night game between the Mariners and Padres, with San Diego as home team. I went back in 2011 for another night game, this time with the Arizona Fall League, where an Indians prospect named Jesus Aguilar hit two homeruns that went so far, I had my head on a swivel walking to the car, just in case they hadn't come down yet. I went in 2012 for a Cactus League game where a Mariner squad of largely AA players with Kevin Milwood pitching showed the Padres that the gap between AA and the Majors isn't so big, winning handily. In 2013, I finally saw this place during the day, as the Royals and Mariners squared off.

My opinon of Peoria changed drastically from after my first visit, where I found it underwhelming, to my other three, where I loved it. I'd have to say that besides Maryvale Ballpark, Peoria is the most underrated in the Cactus League.

The park itself a relatively unassuming complex located in the Phoenix suburb of Peoria, northwest of downtown. The ballpark is accessible via Loop 101, but be ready for traffic prior to game time. Showing up overly early here isn't a bad idea, especially if you aren't familiar with the park, or the area. The main stadium is located between the Mariner and Padre training areas and is a subdued Tan, concrete park, with little in the way of an exterior façade. Food is around average at around average prices. I've been here 4 times and cannot remember one unique offering from either team. Prices are below average for the area.

The main concourse out of view of the field, but a wide walkway between the lower and upper seating sections acts as another concourse as well, although there aren't any kiosks or anything blocking it. My big plusses for Peoria are sightlines and an atmosphere that is less like a carnival and more about baseball. The Mariners and Padres organizations, to their credit, seem to think this is a plus to and recently extended their leases in Peoria until 2034, which means that fans of both the M's and the Fighting Friars have 20 more springs to look forward to. The Mariners bring several vendors and the like down from Seattle, to add to the local experience. This is a conversation from 2010:

A longtime Mariner Vendor, on the long gone Kingdome:
Fan: Do you miss the dome?
Vendor sits down.
“People ask me:do you miss the dome? I tell them: Only in April.”

Now that I've seen them all, I realize how special Peoria is. It was the first park in Arizona to house two teams well, which became a model for others to follow. It also isn't well attended compared to some of it's counterparts. It isn't going to blow you away, but my suggestion is to cut away from the herd and catch a game here, especially at night. I doubt you'll be disappointed.

Update 2016: I have now been here a total of 6 times, for four spring training games and two fall league. When I last went back for a Fall League game in 2015, the park was being renovated, the front entrance had an actual sign (really!) and the concessions that weren't open had new signage giving them Seattle and San Diego themed names. The left field corner was closed as it appeared that new suites were going in in that area. Both teams are committed here for the long term, so it's not surprising that the almost 25 year old park was up for some renos. Under the new rating system, I'd still keep an 8, giving half points for atmosphere and facility, but I will make a stop here for sure the next March I go to Phoenix, as the renovations could make this score higher.

 Linescores
2010-03-24
                        123    456   789   R H E
Seattle              000    100    000  1  4  3
San Diego         000     000   20x  2 10 1
Temp: 66F  Time: 2:34  Att: 7,173

2011-10-06
                                   123   456  789    R  H  E
Phoenix Desert Dogs     010  122  013   10  11  1
Peoria Javelinas            000   011  200    4   7   0
Temp: 65F  Time: 2:49  Att: 269

2012-03-31
                         123   456   789   R H E
San Diego           000  010   000   1 5  2
Seattle               002  002   11x   6  12  0
Temp: 90F  Time: 2:27  Att: 5,773

2013-03-26
                      123   456   789   R  H   E
Kansas City     001   060  022  11 18  0
Seattle             003  100  200    6  11  0
Temp: 81F  Time: 2:58  Att: 6,098

2014-03-26
                          123    456    789   R H E
Chicago Cubs      001   000    013   5 11 3
San Diego           012   000   200    5  6  2
Temp: 85F  Time: 3:16  Att: 5,407

2015-11-19
                                123   456   789  RHE
Surprise Saguaros      001  003   030   791
Peoria Javelinas         300  100   000   492
Temp: 74F   Time: 2:46  Att: 603 

Salt River Fields at Talking Stick

Arizona Diamonbacks/ Colorado Rockies (Spring Training)

9/10

The exterior of this one kind of defies convention. I've been here three times and tried multiple angles, but this one I like best.

Finally got a good home plate photo of this one. This was a nice day.

A sizeable crowd sees the Rockies host the Mariners on a pleasant Arizona evening.

I went first went to Salt River in 2011, going straight from the airport to a night game between the Mariners and Rockies. Salt River fields were the talk of Spring Training that year, as its opening meant the end of Spring Training in Tucson, as the Diamondbacks moved there from Tucson Electric Park and the Rockies from Hi Corbett Stadium. In a word, this place is elaborate. Built on the Salt River Indian Reservation, in the Scottsdale area, the stadium seats 11,000, but has been known to squeeze in a thousand or so more. It is very popular, but also expensive, which is the biggest knock I have against it. Still, it is likely the class of the Cactus League at the moment, and was the scheduled as the site of two group games for the 2013 World Baseball Classic, with one moving to Chase Field at the last second due to weather. This is where Italy upset Mexico, to send the Phoenix group on the tournament into disarray. I've been to two Cactus League games and a fall league contest at last count.

But, even if it is expensive, there's a lot about Salt River I like. The layout of the seating is quite good, with a high capacity, but it still feels like there's enough room to be comfortable, with the spectators well spread out, which means it takes a few seconds to get to your seat. Sight lines are good and watching the game is an enjoyable experience. Parking is a bit of a pain, but there are enough spots and some of the farther lots are free, to make it a little easier to swallow. Speaking of easy to swallow, the food here, while expensive, is perhaps the best in the Cactus League. Bison Hot Dogs, numerous varieties of actual ice cream and many other terrific choices make Salt River a park you just have to grab a meal at. The games here are well attended, especially when Arizona is in action. A combination of locals going to their nearest park, fans from across the valley going to their favourite and the usual crowd following the visitors, Salt River has a pretty good atmosphere. It's one of two parks off the top of my head that looks like a strictly Cactus league park instead of a Triple-A park like some of the others.

Overall, Salt River is a good one to visit if you haven't been, or are in the area, but it is a bit of a chore to repeatedly justify the drive over from the western suburbs of Phoenix.

Update 2016: I got some newer pictures here in 2015. I've also been here 4 times now, for 3 cactus league games and one in the fall league. I upped the rating to a 9. The food here is great, I've had a Bison Hot Dog, Garlic Knots, Pizza and I'm not sure what else. A little expensive, but all good. Also, the facility itself is still impressive. Only the atmosphere wasn't amazing, and it was par for the course for the Cactus. Still, I wish I'd been able to sneak another game or two in here.


Linescores

2011-03-23
                     123   456     789   RHE
Seattle           001   020     020   580
Colorado        005   010     00x   661
Temp: N/A  Time:  2:45 Att: 12,261

2011-10-05
                                123      456    789      R  H E
Peoria Javelinas         011     260     300      13 15 0
Salt River Rafters       000     070     000       7  8   2
Temp: 80F   Time: 3:14   Att: 479

2012-03-24
                           123      456     789     R  H  E
Kansas City          200     001     300     6  12  2
Arizona                 000     102     020     5  12  0
Temp: N/A   Time: 3:01  Att: 12,513

2015-03-27
                         123      456      789     RHE
Cleveland            000     000      011      241
Arizona              100     000      02x      381
Temp: N/A     Time: 2:42   Att:  11,537

Scottsdale Stadium

San Francisco Giants(Spring Training)

7/10

     The crowd assembles for a night game between the Giants and Indians

The last few minutes before game time in the Arizona Fall League in 2015.

         These seats would fill almost totally for the game.

This is the current Cactus League park for the San Francisco Giants, as well as the former home of the AAA Phoenix Firebirds and a site for some group games of the inaugural World Baseball Classic, in 2005. In the offseason, it sees Arizona Fall League Action. Also, my hometown Edmonton Capitals trained there in 2011, which turned out to be their last year.

The park is located centrally in downtown Scottsdale, which in turn, is northeast of downtown Phoenix by around 20-30 minutes. Scottsdale itself is probably the most affluent suburb of Phoenix, with lots of trendy restaurants and shops. If you plan on heading to a game here, planning to spend time in the area either before or after is well worth it.

The stadium itself is pretty standard for the Cactus League, there are three types of seating in the grandstand and an outfield berm. I was still in the process of checking off all the Cactus League parks and when I flew in for a 4 game in 3 day express vacation in 2011, I asked to head off to this one. My stepfather, who had been here several times, agreed, but pointed out that Scottsdale is probably the most expensive park in the Cactus League now, with outfield berm "seating" going for 25 dollars a head. Compare that to a front row seat in west valley parks like Goodyear or Surprise and it's hard to justify too many trips.

Still, I did enjoy the experience overall, a plucky young Cleveland side managed to down the Giants, who were just coming off their first championship since moving to SFO. We sat behind two girls from San Fran who asked me to take their picture and an older couple who had come out from Ohio to watch the Indians. They appreciated my answer when asked by my mother "Who's your second favourite team?" to which I replied, "Whoever's playing the Yankees."

I'd give Scottsdale Stadium a 7/10. It would be an 8, but the high prices for everything drive the rating down. I realize I don't have the greatest photos for this one and it's the only Cactus League park that I haven't been to more than once, so a trip in 2014 is a good bet.

Update 2016: I have thought a few times of making another trip here during Spring Training, but the fact of the matter is that Giants tickets have become some of the most expensive and sought after anywhere in the Cactus League. They also use a "floating" pricing model, so ticket prices vary from game to game. I couldn't find any good seats available just doing a search, so I don't know how much they even go for. I did get a fall league game in here in 2015 and got some better pictures in. I have no idea when I'll come back here, but I'd hope to get a Giants Spring Training game in here within the next five years at least.

Linescores
2011-03-24(Spring Training)
                       123    456    789   R H E
Cleveland          003   001    300     7 10 0
San Francisco   000   000    100     1   6  1
Temp:66F  Time: 2:30 Att: 10,292


2015-11-16
                                    123  456  789  R H E
Surprise Saguaros          300  000  400  7 10 0
Scottsdale Scorpions      001  101  000  3 7 3
Temp: 57F Time: 3:06  Att: 374